Showing posts with label ISON. Show all posts
Showing posts with label ISON. Show all posts

Saturday, November 30, 2013

Ison: Was it hidden from us? (104 replies)

Ison: Was it hidden from us? (104 replies)
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posted on Nov, 29 2013 @ 08:37 PM


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What is tragic, is not so much the fact that sudo public owned equipment is cleansed of pertinent data,but rather that people are surprised. ATS is devoted to seeing beyond the vale, and there will always be the antagonistic troll types who will support the party line, but most of us by now should expect some degree of tampering in any imagery or data received from government sources. It is no different from those who look to USGS for accurate earthquake data, or noaa for buoy data in active zones, or the haarp spectrograph to see if anything is unusual.


Pure science is just that, pure. Any data derived from an internet source should always be considered suspect. Unfortunately, without the tools provided, we are unable to even get a glimmer of understanding of what is truly going on. In this case, at least we were lucky to see the show. And wow, what a show. Aside from that, what we are being spoon fed is merely entertainment. Accurate telemetry, dimentions, mass, on this or any other celetial body will have to remain a mystery to us sheeple until we can intercept the incoming satellite data directly.


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Friday, November 29, 2013

all! lets watch the realtime Ison journey meet the sun..provide by NASA! (432 replies)

all! lets watch the realtime Ison journey meet the sun..provide by NASA! (432 replies)
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posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 07:29 AM


Oooh, thanks Cheesy!

All things considered so far, I’m going to go with my gut on ISON and think it’s going to survive perihelion. It’s the brightness I’m not sure about, and it doesn’t help that there’s so many varying predictions out there based on this, that & the other. It would be great if everyone could just say “Dunno, but we’ll find out!” instead of tossing out guess after guess.


And forget the popcorn, Nyiah’s cooking up some BBQ chicken for Thanksgiving perihelion watch. The only thing I’m missing out of game day foods is the freakin’ nachos (i forgot)




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Thursday, November 28, 2013

SDO Views Comet ISON




On November 28, 2013, the SDO (Solar Dynamics Observatory) spacecraft will off-point at three different positions as Comet ISON moves through perihelion. This website will display near realtime images and movies of this sungrazing comet. Images should begin appearing sometime between 12:45 pm and 1:00 pm ET.


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Comet ISON Approach


Comet ISON Perihelion


Comet ISON Departure



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Wednesday, November 27, 2013

Lets Deny Ignorance: The Not So Doom-y Truth About Comet ISON (180 replies)

Lets Deny Ignorance: The Not So Doom-y Truth About Comet ISON (180 replies)
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Let’s talk about comet ISON, shall we? More specifically.. I want to discuss the myths and misinformation that are plaguing the interwebz about Cheesy’s favorite comet. I’ve seen this stuff spewed on Youtube, and the misinformation is bleeding over into the forums right here on ATS.

Let’s deny a little ignorance:


1. NASA is lying about comet ISON and hiding the doom-y, gloomy truth from the public.



There’s a scene from the 1998 movie Deep Impact where the president, played by Morgan Freeman, reveals a terrible truth… the U.S. government has known for over a year that a doomsday comet is headed straight towards Earth, with Hollywood CGI destruction sure to follow.


While dramatic, the scenario is also extremely implausible. On any given evening, amateur astronomers are sweeping the skies using telescopes mounted in backyard observatories that are the envy of many major universities. This effort to discover comets is collaborative and worldwide. If the “Big One” were headed our way, even the likes of Morgan Freeman couldn’t keep it secret.



As soon as an object is discovered, the information is released to the world-wide community of professional, as well as amateur astronomers. There is a rush to confirm, observe, and record data about the object in question and then the data is compiled to calculate the size and orbital path. More observations, means a more accurate picture of the object.


So that public that NASA is ‘hiding the truth’ from… are part of the whole process from discovery, to observations, to calculations. How can it be hidden from the very people doing the legwork?



When a discovery is made — be it by amateur or professional — the first task is to gain enough observations of the object to ascertain its orbit. Once again, we see the international collaborative methods employed by modern science. Already, the cosmic cat’s out of the bag as observatories worldwide make follow up measurements. There are no secrets about Comet ISON that hundreds of astronomers could keep quiet



It isn’t possible to hide this kind of information from the public because of the collaborative and world wide effort in finding and tracking objects. NASA funds the Minor Planet Center, which is where objects are reported, data is collected, and results made public. NASA actually has surprisingly little do with any of it, which is another very common misconception.


2. Comet ISON has other objects in tow.



One currently circulating claim states that Comet ISON has “companions” that have been imaged trailing it. While comets do indeed fragment on occasion, the culprits that can be seen in the .gif animation circulating the internet are easily identified by photography experts as hot pixels in the camera



One youtube user, is a fan of taking images and adjusting the contrast to show ‘hidden’ objects within or around the comet. He is doing nothing more than enhancing these hot pixels and other photographic artifacts/anomalies and lying to the viewers about what he has supposedly ‘exposed’, when in truth…. they are nothing more than common findings in these types of images. You can find anything if you look hard enough… and apparently.. people really want to find that doom to up their views on teh youtubez, even if it means lying to the viewers and propagating ignorance and fear.


If and when ISON fragments… we will certainly know about it with so many dedicated astronomers and other sky-watchers out there keeping tabs on all things ISON.


3. Comet ISON is going to hit us/Comet ISON is Niburu/The debris field will wreak havoc on earth



Scientists have defined this comet’s orbit very precisely, and it won’t hit Earth. So, no Comet ISON is not Nibiru — that ‘tenth planet’ destined to destroy Earth that conspiracy lovers can’t seem to let go of.


The debris — which might create a very nice meteor shower — is made up of extremely tiny grains of dust, no more than a few microns wide. Since they will be hitting Earth’s atmosphere at speeds up to 200,000 km/hr (125,000 miles per hour), the particles will burn up.



Over 6400 observations have been used in calculating ISON’s orbit which leaves a very small margin of error. This data is obtained from professional and amateur astronomers around the world, so it is NOT NASA fudging the numbers, since they aren’t even NASA’s numbers in the first place.


The debris field of dust left in the comet’s wake, will harm no one and will not cause any damage. We pass through debris fields of past comets many times a year and one can enjoy several annual meteor showers as a result.


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So, there you have it, folks. ISON is just a comet, it poses no danger to earth, its not niburu, it has nothing in tow, NASA is not lying, and it will pass much like Elenin and the others… without incident.


Please stop propagating ignorance and fear mongering.


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Tuesday, November 26, 2013

NASA is lying about Comet ISON. (171 replies)

NASA is lying about Comet ISON. (171 replies)
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posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 06:13 PM


Everything I have seen, and I’m not talking about youtube, has shown that ISON isn’t ‘huge’ by comet standards.

There is an incredible amount of fear mongering happening with this comet, much like we saw with Elenin…


And, people mistakenly blame NASA for all sorts of things….


OMG! NASA IS LYING! ITS COMING RIGHT FOR US! NEVER A STRAIGHT ANSWER!


Y’all give NASA far too much credit..


Stop the fear mongering.
Stop watching videos on youtube from people that have NO idea what they are talking about.
Read some actual documentation.. which there is plenty of.


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Saturday, October 19, 2013

Comet ISON: Still Alive



As of Oct. 9, 2013, comet C/2012 S1 (ISON) is still alive.




That’s the verdict from a Hubble Space Telescope image taken on that day. At a distance of 280 million kilometers (175 million miles), the comet presented a fine sight to Hubble’s keen eye:




There has been some speculation that this comet may disintegrate as it gets near the Sun in late November. Comets are basically dirty snowballs; ice, rock, and gravel mixed together. As the comet warms, the ice turns into a gas, creating the fuzzy head around the solid nucleus, and the long tail that streams away due to the solar wind and pressure from fierce sunlight. If enough of the ice goes away, the comet loses structural integrity and can fall apart. We’ve seen that in images of other comets (including a dramatic one from Hubble back in 2006).



Comet Comet 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann losing its grip in 2006.

Photo by NASA,ESA, H. Weaver (JHU/APL), M. Mutchler and Z. Levay (STScI)




The thing to note is that the head of Comet ISON, the tiny fuzzy part at the bottom left, appears intact. If the comet were breaking up, we should see tiny pieces trailing behind it. The image looks clean, so it seems to me this comet still has some sizzle left to go.




ISON is on an orbit that will take it deep into the solar system, practically scraping the Sun’s surface, missing it by only a million kilometers (700,000 miles or so), less than the diameter of the Sun itself. Because it will be so close to the Sun, ISON could get very bright; I’ve seen comets get to naked-eye visibility when this happens!





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Or, it might not. As I’ve said before, comets are basically as predictable as cats. I wouldn’t bet either way.




Still, this latest Hubble image gives me hope this comet may yet brighten quite a bit. We’ll see. If you want to observe it yourself, star charts are available online. I plan on taking a look soon myself. Good comets are rare beasts, and I want to make sure I take every chance I get to see one.




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